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Layla

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Re: Ritual Words
« Reply #30 on: March 20, 2017, 11:20:20 am »
The nice cook lady (and cook man) came in with a game, cards that we realized had ritual words and pictures on them. We drew folks' attention to it and Viola, Niko, and myself played the game for the prize of a brownie.

While playing the nice lady gave us hints about the words and their meanings. We clarified while Viola and Niko were taking turns about some of the concepts since she seemed quite familiar with them (we thought it was odd for a cook to know such things but perhaps it is because she makes magical brownies?) So we asked about Ma and whether it could be used as "a" or "an" since it denotes one and she agreed. While talking about the word for flower Nihzel, she indicated with gestures that nihzel was a thing, stationary. With nihzelana she made a movement with the gesture she used for nihzel, as if it was blooming or flowering. Lum said we should clarify by asking if a couple other words would make sense with ana added to them, one of which would make sense and one that wouldn't. She confirmed that it was essentially used to denote action which could be contrued as a verb. Lum thought that -ing was particularly appropriate and I agreed.

We DID think it was particularly odd that the nice cook lady and man could not (cannot?) seem to outright discuss these things and need to use gestures and images to help get the ideas across to aid us.

Also the brownie Viola let me eat was...interesting.

It sent me into a vision, a Weavewalk I believe. I saw an all consuming light and it was terrible and wonderful. There was  man and a woman who experienced it too. We heard voice(s), they called out and wanted us to tell them THE WORD. that we couldn't hide it from them. There was screaming and the weave shattered. I think the word they wanted was a specific ritual word but that is only conjecture.

Layla

 



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Re: Ritual Words
« Reply #31 on: March 20, 2017, 11:47:18 am »
Quote from: Ilyani on December 07, 2016, 05:18:05 pm
According to a conversation with Shoshone, he says the apostrophe in "DHIGE'A" should be pronounced with an "f" sound, making the proper pronunciation of that word "Thigefa" when one considers the "Dh" at the beginning.

Again, I know not where he came across the "f", but he seemed confident.

Shoshann, can you elaborate on your confidence of the apostrophe pronunciation?  I'm making a primer and making footnotes of sources, along with the source's confidence.
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Re: Ritual Words
« Reply #32 on: March 20, 2017, 09:36:05 pm »
The pronounciation of apostrophe as "f" was taught to me by the person that Layla refers to as "the nice cook lady", the same person who introduced us to the card game that provided us with so many words.  She commented to me that the pronounciation for Dhige'a was "Thigefa".  I asked for confirmation, which she provided.

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Re: Ritual Words
« Reply #33 on: March 21, 2017, 06:53:33 am »
Excellent, thank you!
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Re: Ritual Words
« Reply #34 on: March 21, 2017, 08:31:34 pm »
I have question.  One of words we have is "Dothu = Favored of Dothu/someone wit vow."  Who is "Dothu"?  I don't remember hearing about dis deity before.
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Re: Ritual Words
« Reply #35 on: March 22, 2017, 07:49:46 am »
Quote from: Chel Verdansk on March 21, 2017, 08:31:34 pm
I have question.  One of words we have is "Dothu = Favored of Dothu/someone wit vow."  Who is "Dothu"?  I don't remember hearing about dis deity before.

I've been compiling a dictionary with footnotes.  Here are the attributions I don't have:

Ashen - Dream/good dream (speculative)
Dothu - A favored of Dothu / someone wiht a vow
Kazhagen - Moon
Mosho - New/Newness (speculative)
Nakezil - orange
Nazinzhan - phoenix/transformation
Penezil - squirrel
Penthemega - a Weavewalker
Sepezel - Rabbit
She'ashen'ata - Lady of Dreams (speculative)
Sopumosho - someone new to the area
Toshon - owl

So some are marked as speculative, but I'm inclined to mark them all as speculative until I can get a source for them.  I'm guessing many are someone's ritual words, so if I could get an attribution, that would be very helpful.
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Re: Ritual Words
« Reply #36 on: March 22, 2017, 07:58:02 am »
The three marked speculative are my speculations. ASHEN and MOSHO are just based on other words. SHE'ASHEN'ATA is based on its use in the chants and things like that.

I think DOTHU and SOPUMOSHO came from the ritual to set up the Treasury shrine - maybe Mercutio or Thaddeus would know for sure. PENTHEMEGA might be from that too, or might be from the Troyvich window and ritual that got done back at the waystation. I think NAZINZHAN is from the window ritual but I'm not sure.

The others are all the kind of thing that could have come from someone's Pathfolding or Weavewalking rituals. We also saw KAZHAGEN in conjunction with a moon symbol on some of the plaques.

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Re: Ritual Words
« Reply #37 on: March 22, 2017, 08:00:03 am »
Quote from: Shoshann on March 20, 2017, 10:48:55 am
Greetings,

I wanted to share with you of the success of a ritual that we performed during our recent arrival at the shelter cavern.  As you may have noticed, any time the cavern mouth was opened, a biting cold would enter our hovel and chill us to the bone.  As this would not lead to us being able to rest, I called upon Mishkin and Illyana to collaborate in a ritual, designed to keep us warm during our stay.

We constructed our ritual around the story of the brazier that I keep fueled, a gift from the temple of Dhegea.  Calling upon the fire, I supplicated Dhegea for her favor, that our home would be sheltered from the cold and we be kept warm.  We compounded the words:

DHIGE'A (Volcano) - ("I beseech Deghea to provide us warmth...")
SHEPAKEL (Shield) - ("To shield us from the freezing cold...")
BEN DANSUBA (Home) - ("That our home remain safe and secure...")

As with these matters, we are unsure of the outcome, but we definitely felt that something happened and that the room was awash in energy.  I observed that, from that point forward, no freezing cold entered through the door when new people arrived. 

This was a test of our understanding of the language of old.  It appears to have been successful, but time and further trials will tell us more.  One thing that we discovered was that by dedicating our attention and placing more of our Focus on the ritual, we may yield better results. 

Stay warm,
Shoshann

Um... this doesn't have anything to do with the fissure and magma and hot gases that people are saying have shown up at the back end of the Expedition, does it?

--Miri
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Re: Ritual Words
« Reply #38 on: March 22, 2017, 08:01:20 am »
 I can confirm Toshon is Owl.
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Re: Ritual Words
« Reply #39 on: March 22, 2017, 08:30:48 am »
Quote from: Ilyani on March 22, 2017, 08:01:20 am
I can confirm Toshon is Owl.

Thanks.

Oh, I don't need a source if things are marked as speculation.  Or rather, I don't want to slow down speculation by trying to attach sources to them.  :)
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Re: Ritual Words
« Reply #40 on: March 22, 2017, 10:33:16 pm »
Can confirm that KAZHANGEN means moon (Pathfinding word).
« Last Edit: March 22, 2017, 10:35:32 pm by Hazel »
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Re: Ritual Words
« Reply #41 on: March 23, 2017, 04:48:04 pm »
So, here is a hypotesis:

We have a word "Zhadogodun," for which we only know "zhado=stone".  What does rest of word mean?

Fact: We also know a word "Kotodun," people who live in de Silver Daggers, near Mt. Koto.  Is tis useful to us?  Is "katodun" Ancient word?  Well, we know dat "koto" is Ancient (Plaque 13: 1st word)1, altough we do not know meaning. 

Surmise: "Kotodun= People of2 Koto", with "dun = People of"

tus, furder surmise:  "Zhadogodun = People of Stone go"

For wild speculation, could "Zhadogodun" mean dese Stone Cults I hearing about lately?

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1 - I use numbers written on Plaque, instead of what we surmise is order

2 - "of" could also mean "near," "in te proximity of," "can see," "is effected by," etc.
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Re: Ritual Words
« Reply #42 on: March 28, 2017, 04:18:32 pm »
I didn't see this one in the ritual book so either I missed it or never shared it.

gadezil = horse

it's one of my ritual words.
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Re: Ritual Words
« Reply #43 on: March 29, 2017, 11:34:50 am »
It's there, but I've added the extra attribution (because multiple primary sources is a good thing).
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Re: Ritual Words
« Reply #44 on: March 31, 2017, 08:38:01 pm »
Quote from: Chel Verdansk on March 23, 2017, 04:48:04 pm

Surmise: "Kotodun= People of2 Koto", with "dun = People of"

tus, furder surmise:  "Zhadogodun = People of Stone go"

For wild speculation, could "Zhadogodun" mean dese Stone Cults I hearing about lately?

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1 - I use numbers written on Plaque, instead of what we surmise is order

2 - "of" could also mean "near," "in te proximity of," "can see," "is effected by," etc.

I had an intuition that -dun meant people. Though I had no evidence for it.
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